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your cia background. >> i worked at cia and nationalp intelligence counsel inac washington for about thirty fivl years.in >> what capacity? >> i became the national intelligence officer for latinee america which it a three or foua star military equivalent.on he was a civilian. it was a substantial position. i had responsibility for all of latin america and cuba. on the an lettic side oft -- intelligence. >> what does thatno mean? >> i was not a field operative. i did not go and conductof espionage. i did not go out and be foreignl agency. most of my career at headquarter mainly virginia. i wrote national intelligencean estimates. quite a few on cuba over the >> b years, and on many of the other ca latin american countries. how >> before we get to castro and the castro regime. at how did you get interested in the work? >> i was student at georgetownes university where i later taughte for about twenty five years as , an adjunct i'm teaching now atgo the university of miami. i was attracted to the foreigner service school at georgetown. it was a timeja when a lot of us of my generation
.c.. it takes place in cia headquarters, the pentagon, and at the white house. you know, it's funny for me to write a story about a military operation where 90% of the story takes place in washington, d.c., but that's where the story actually unfolded. today, unique, i think, among presidents of the united states, president obama is almost, daily, given a dossier on a target. this is someone in the cross hairs of the cia or the military, and obama or directer petraeus has to make a decision about whether to shoot at that target, whether to take that person out. now, i know that presidents have had to make critically important decisions affecting thousands and hundreds of thousands of lives throughout history of this country, but it seems to me to be a new development for the president of the united states to be deciding on individual targets around the world on a regular basis, and i think that that is probably one of the most unique developments in modern war, and that kind of defines right now the nature of the war that we're fighting. obama, when he said that he was, you know, willing t
of a gripping, terrifying spy novel. you got a bioweapons scientist and covert cia officer who is working on developing all sorts of biological weapons that are used in extreme interrogations. some of those interrogations with the bioweapons result in death. and the cia, what does it do about this? the agent who is involved and apparently who has a discomfort with what he's been doing gets his drinks spiked against the cia. it is an extremely convoluted, intriguing case and as you well outlined but is extremely convoluted. it's ten years old, the kennedy assassination and many if not a all -- >> that is my next question. since it is so old, a number of witnesses they would need, some of his fellow officers now in their 20s or 30s would be in their 70s or 80s. not only could they be dead but their minds are certainly not what they used to be which is always a problem in an old case that comes to court after decades. but in this particular case, just getting evidence, you're talking about getting evidence from the cia. >> well the family is having an extremely difficult time getting evidenc
of this generation >> jon: don't be america one of the most respected military men of this generation. c.i.a. director and retired four-star general david petraeus stepped down friday after admit to go an extra marital affair. >> jon: it was captain america. the four-star general and current c.i.a. director caught in a web of sexual intrigue. c.i.a. director, perhaps, this isn't a sexy soviet agent with one of them naughty innuendo names like sonnia vaginov or natalie fellatiovich. and his con vaiveing paramoru told on him. is that how they found out about this? >> law enforcement and multiple u.s. officials tell nbc news that emails between him and paula broadwell, his biography were indicative of an extra marital affair. >> jon: really? email? all they had to do to nab america's spy-master general is log to his email? we can intrigue that little sound bite up a little bit? >> law enforcement and multiple u.s. officials tell abc news that emails between him and paula broadwell his biographer were indicative of an extra marital affair. >> jon: how exciting. wait. ( cheers and applause ) the
. thank you for staying with us for this hour. the acting director of the cia met for more than an hour with senators john mccain and lindsey graham along with the u.n. ambassador susan rice. the three senators emerged from the meeting saying they were honored by the fact that the cia director would meet with them, just three random senators and not in some official capacity testifying before committee on the hill. they appreciated the fact that the administration and the intelligence community was going to such lengths to e swaj their concerns to personally answer their questions about the libya attack in a closed-door meeting with the cia director himself, even though these are just three random senators. the senators said their questions were answered as reasonably could be expected and they were willing to consider the president's nominee for secretary of state. they were tlog hear out those nominations fairly and without prejudice. yeah right. that's not the way it went. here's actually what happened after that meeting today. >> we're not going to consider this nomination until we
at damage control. u.n. ambassador susan rice's trip to capitol hill, she and the acting cia director, michael morel, meeting with republican senators john mccain, kelly ayotte and lindsay graham, who were not pleased with what they heard. >> it is clear that the information she gave the american people was incorrect when she said it was a spontaneous demonstration triggered by a hateful video. it was not, and there was compelling evidence at the time that that was certainly not the case, including statements by libyans as well as other americans who are fully aware that people don't bring mortars and rocket-propelled grenades to spontaneous demonstrations. >> in a statement after the meeting, ambassador rice said that neither she nor anyone in the administration intended to mislead the american people. but the breaking news concerns the part in her sunday talk show statements that substituted the word "extremists" for al qaeda. remember, the administration said she was working from edited talking points. the question is, who did the editing? today, the senators say that acting direct
by the white house. >> in a written statement, rice who was joined by the acting c.i.a. director on the hill said, "we explain that the talking point provideed by the intelligence community and the initial assessment upon which they were based were incorrect in key respect." there was no protest or demonstration in benghazi. full week after the attack on david letterman, the president was still blaming the anti-islam video. >> extremists and terrorists use this as an excuse to attack a variety of the embassies, including the one, the consulate in libya. >> the united nations on september 25, critics charge mr. obama double down. >> the united states government had nothing to do with the video. i believe its message must be rejected by all who respect our common humanity. >> white house briefing spokesman jay carney was pushed for explanation. >> what your questions seems to suggest is that it is more important that i or others use talking point provideed by the intelligence community, than what happened in benghazi. >> a congressional memo by fox news said the al-qaeda affiliated terrorists
the president's firm advisory board. this is a group that does not have -- it's not like cia or defense intelligence agency. all they can do is advise the president. the president says has complete control over who is on the board. now he asked this group to look in to this and come up with a recommendation. they came back and said, what you need to do is get the cia to do this. the fbi they can try and do the leak investigation they simply aren't particularly good tat. the agents don't have the necessary security courses at the begins. they are not particularly schooled in the background issues. what you need do is get the cia to do this. what they recommended is having the cia spy on american journalists. which is directly against the national security act that forms the cia. the cia is supposed to offer external not internal. kennedy authorizes this program and it's a program that ends up being called project mockingbird. we know little about it. most is classified. it was one of the cia family jewels that released national security archive got the full set in 2006 and 2007. so this
and then it ends up toppling the head of the cia? >> cyber security is a huge problem. if someone is hacking into the drergt of the cia, you need to know that. general petraeus, who is the director of the cia, and others have questioned about his e-mail account. the fbi is going to look into that, and they're going to try to determine is something unauthorized happening here? now, they stumbled upon something totally different, but to your question, no, i don't feel badly if the fbi is going to make sure that director of the cia is not being hacked into in an unauthorized fashion. >> petraeus, they had found -- they stumbled across the petraeus issue when she complained there was no mention of petraeus. what surprises me is that these people are still sending emails. >> yeah. >> that goes to judgment. if these emails are threatening, i'm want concerned that the fbi has the capacity to make a base-line judgment, is this a real problem that might do damage to this woman and, therefore, we ought to at least do a preliminary investigation? i mean, think more and more crimes that have been person
pavone, the first-time fiction author of "the expats," a timely tale of intrigue involving a c.i.a. operative. alex stone who has a masters degree in physics and decided instead to become a magician because i believe you wrote, "it makes you be less a nerd," which is always a good ambition. his book is "fooling houdini." and the ever-reliable dan balz, who is back with more tealz of army special agent john fuller for his 25th novel "the forgotten." gillian, i want to start with you. just a masterpiece of writing, your book. i don't want to give away too much of it. so i'll let you tell us. but it is the story-- it is a thriller but it's told in a very unusual way, and basically, it's about trust in a marge that sort of went wrong. >> it's about nick and amy dunn. they're a married couple, and amy goes missing on her five-year anniversary, and it starts with that very basic premise, but the story is told as kind of a he said/she said sort of story. so it's told from nick's point of view, on the day she goes missing and as he quickly starts to become a person of interest, we don't kn
directer of the cia and ambassador rice -- >> bottom line, more disturbedded now than before. lou: in a statement following that meeting with the republican senators and acting cia director michael morale, ambassador rice said this, "we explained the talking appointments provided by the intelligence community and the initial assessment upon which they were based were incorrect in a key respect. there was no protest or demonstration in benghazi. neither i nor anyone else in the administration intended to mislead the american people at any stage in this process." now even greater confusion on the issue of changed rice's talking points. the most recent explanation and revision comes from cia sitting director who told senators the fbi removed references of al-qaeda from the talking points, but at four o'clock eastern time today, cia officials said morale misspoke and that, in fact, the cia deleted references, not the fbi. stay tuned, as they say. joining us now, former u.s. ambassador not united nations, john bolten, andrew mccarthy, former federal prosecutor who convicted the blind s
. >> reporter: there was no protest in benghazi, but she blamed the cia as she did last week. >> i relied solely and squarely on the information provided to me by the intelligence community. i made clear that the information was preliminary. >> reporter: acting cia director mike morrell accompanied rice today, in effect her wing man, but it didn't help. >> i'm more troubled today knowing -- having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice. >> reporter: rice did persuade one senator. >> she said what she believed was true. and she was under no political influence from the white house. >> reporter: joe lieberman is quitting the senate and won't have a vote. rice and the president have a special relationship forged during his first campaign. much closer than his cordial working relationship with hillary clinton, the iconic secretary of state rice would be succeeding. the president has made it clear he will fight for rice. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. >> reporter: and today the white house was not backing dow
advisory board. this is a group that does not have its own power. it's not like cia or defense intelligence agencies. all they do is advise the president. the president says it has complete control of her who was this board. now he has to screw to look into this and come up with recommendations. they came back and said what you need to do is get the cia to do this. the fbi can do the investigations, that they are particularly good as agents to enhance security at the beginning. they're not particularly in the backroom issues. so which you need to do is get the cia serious. but they recommended that the cia spy on american journalists, which is directly against the national security act that forms the cia. the cia is supposed to operate externally, not internally. kennedy authorizes this a program called project mockingbird. we still know very little about it because most of it is still classified. it was one of the items they release a national security archives got the full senate in 2006, 2007. so the program in the summer of 1962 is an kennedy is starting to crack down drastically on lea
nominated yet simply because she went on the television and repeated what the cia was saying at the time, that was completely unsustainable. tomorrow ricks said it it right. that was completely political. the facts have shown that she wasn't lying. she was repeating what the cia had said was their best guess at that moment. it turns out to have been wrong. but to try to block her from being secretary of state simply for that was completely unsustainable and, you know, the meetings that are going to happen this week are the first step in her confirmation if the president does nominate her. i think that it would be very difficult for them to stop her. >> now, joe, they hammered ambassador rice. mccain hammered her but now he seems to be changing his tone. look at what he said then and look at what he is saying now. watch this. >> susan rice should have known better and if she didn't know better, she's not qualified. >> we will do whatever's necessary to block the nomination that's within our power as far as susan rice is concerned. if this select committee if appointed clears her of any wr
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hill. this team she's meeting with connecticut senator joseph lieberman. earlier rice and aktding cia director mike morrell met with john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte over what rice knew the in the days after the deadly consulate attack in benghazi. all three claim to be more troubled after this meeting. >> we're significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before that the 16th september explanation about how four americans died by ambassador rice, i think, does not do justice to the reality at the time. >> clearly the impression that was begin, the information begin to the american people was wrong. in fact, ambassador rice said today, absolutely, it was wrong. >> and within the past hour the white house once again defended ambassador rice. >> focus on some might say obsession made on comments made on sunday shows seems, to me, and to many, to be misplaced. >> and the ambassador herself made this statement only a short time ago. it read in part, quote, i appreciated the opportunity
'm more troubled today, knowing, having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice. >> senator ayotte seized on one of the headlines from the meeting that ams about dor rice apparently admitted she was wrong. >> clearly the impression that was given, the information given to the american people, was wrong. in fact, ambassador rice said today absolutely it was wrong and that's troubling to me as well why she wouldn't have asked i'm the person that doesn't know anything about this and going on every show. >> richard wolffe, reader of tea leaves that you are. >> yes. >> how much of this is because president obama would like to see susan rice as his secretary of state? >> well, let's say 50% and -- >> you're putting it at a fair 50. >> 50% and the other 50% susan rice is a proxy for this president. i've said it again and will say it again there has been a witch hunt for every person of color that has served alongside this president. there are really serious things, if that's actually english -- >> only you would know, yes. >> about benghazi that they should be investiga
pretty tough on her already. >> for sure. and so susan rice is smartly bringing the active cia director with her to answer those questions. i'd be surprised if it's not civil or collegial as these things tended to be in my experience. if it isn't, that would be an exception worth noting. >> now that these meetings are happening, is there any doubt in your mind she's the leading contender? robert? >> of course she's the leading contender. no question about it -- yes, of course, can you hear me? >> yeah. >> hello? >> hi. >> of course, she's a leading contender, the reason why is -- because she has the confidence of the president, she certainly has the relationship and the experience. look, there's only two people really that are in play here, that is senator john kerry and susan rice. there's no question about it she's qualified. however, i'll remind you and the audience that senators do have a constitutional role in this, and that is to advise and consent. the question is whether or not she's able to alleviate the concerns to pass confirmation. >> i'm not sure we have a little bit of a d
, to psychoanalyze the scandal that brought down the head of the cia. we are delighted to be joined, now, by the admiral james lyons, retired commander of the u.s. pacific fleet. it is always good to have you with us. thanks for being here. >> nice to be back with you, lou. >> lou: let's turn, to first, the talking points. which, it seems that no one after general petraeus made it clear there had been changes in those talking points, the testimony before congress has been surveyed, and congressman mike rogers, the chair of the house intelligence committee, said, it has to be the white house, because everybody else has testified that they didn't. do you agree? >> i agree. and, in that deputy's committee i'm hurry the white house representative and the national security, from the national security agency, council, had his marching orders. >> lou: his marching orders and petraeus for his part says part of the confusion here, that is primarily, i believe, it is safe to say the confusion between the testimony he gave to congress, three days after september 11th, and what he said over the past
. >> i'm more troubled today, knowing, having met with the acting director of the cia, and ambassador rice. >> joining me now with reaction, fox news contributor liz cheney. that's disturbing, considering -- >> yeah. i think the senators made a good faith effort. ambassador rice asked for the meeting. but the notion that they came out of the session more disturbed than when they went in is really troubling. and this latest shift, you know, this just happened in the last few hours, where apparently the acting director of the cia told the senators that it was the fbi that changed the talking points, that removed the reference to al-qaeda, and he had a reason for it in the meeting. he said it was because they didn't want to hurt an ongoing criminal investigation, and now later today the cia came out and said, well, he misspoke. so it's now the fourth or fifth iteration of who changed the talking points, which isn't something that happens when you're actually telling the truth. >> sean: this is the problem susan rice has and the white house has, is if david petraeus knew instantly, and ch
is the new video that documents event around the bin laden kill and it's chock full of controversy. c.i.a. opened the door and file to the movie producers. here is a cliff of "zero dark thirty." >> do you really believe this story? >> usama bin laden. yeah. >> what part convinceed you? >> her confidence. >> if you're right, the whole world is going to want in on this. ♪ ♪ >> eric: we're all watching, we're engaged and we'll all want to see that. but kimberly, should the c.i.a. allow hollywood inside their doors, inside their files? >> kimberly: there isn't up side except people who produce the movie will get paid and investors are lucky enough to get in on it financially will be paid off. people are entertained but to what expense to our national security? this is a movie they should haven't had the access to the file torse documents. jeopardize potential operation in field. now it's reckless, irresponsible and glorify the administration for a cull that was one that needed to happen but don't pat yourself on the back. >> eric: i have a big problem with our own c.i.a. opening the doors
of evidence in the casey anthony murder trial get overlooked? >>> plus, a new report on what disgraced cia director david petraeus is planning to do next. you're watching "early today." >>> hey. there. welcome back. here are some stories making news this morning. "the new york times" reports that former cia director david petraeus is fighting off cabin fever after his november 9th resignation. friends say he is considering teaching posts at four universities and publishing proposals, possible speaking or corporate board offers, and he has not ruled out a job as a television analyst. >>> the indianapolis explosion that killed two people is forcing the demolition of about 30 homes in the surrounding neighborhood. police are still investigating the november 10th blast. >>> new evidence shows that someone in casey anthony's house did a computer search for the term "fool-proof suffocation" on the day 2-year-old caylee anthony died, but it was misspelled with an "i," and prosecutors never knew about it. casey anthony was acquitted of her daughter's murder in 2011. >>> president obama, his wife a
of congressmen, including minority leader eric cantor. david petraeus lost his job as the head of the cia. analysts it was all caught up in what has been labeled the military adulteress complex. does that about summed it up? >> yes, it does. it is really unfortunate. it is not the people have never had affairs in high positions in government. cia directors have even had affairs in the past. and we did not fire them over it. but these are different times. my view is that it should have been investigated, because there was a to -- a potential compromise of national security. if they found nothing, and so far they have found nothing, then patraeus should have been read the riot act by the president and should have stayed and none of us would have known. but i have to say that everyone i know in high office in the military establishment tells me i'm wrong. they say you cannot have that kind of person in that high of a position at demonstrating that kind of judgment been compromised that way. >> i agree entirely with nina, and i don't think i've ever said that on the show in 21 years. unless t
of the drama was a young female cia officer played by jessica chastain, the woman they called maya, rerelentlessly tracked leads that went straight to bin laden. >> bin laden is there. and you're going to kill him for me. >> i realized this odyssey was this woman, with tenacity and courage, i was excited to take it on. >> i didn't want to use you with your velcro and gear, i wanted to drop a bomb. >> reporter: those words were indeed real based on interviews with the young cia officer, some of the dialogue is drama tiezed, some of the decades difficult na nair nairty -- narrative condensed. how did she feel about the movie? >> a lot of people i spoke to were in an unusual position, they were proud of what they had done but had more or less resigned themselves to the fact that what they had done they could not talk about publicly but the movie allows them tuk in a way that is a bit freer because movies can change the way people look. >> reporter: bigelow was making final tweaks with her sound designers the day we met. >> what we were try doing here was create a kind of sonic environ
occurred at the cia last week, my wife immediately gave me a call. [laughter] she said, i hope there is no way the president is going to ask you to take that job again. [laughter] i said no, he's been there, done that. it is an honor to have the chance to share some thoughts with you on so many issues we confront at the defense department, and if i might take this opportunity, since we are close to thanksgiving to wish you and your families and have-- a happy thanksgiving. michelle is a great friend, and i am sorry to see her leave the department of defense, but having been in those kinds of jobs most of my life, i anderson the reason she felt she really -- i understood the reasons she felt she really wanted to spend some time -- i she really wanted to spend timei should tell you i continue to feel her positive impact community. it is not only because of her time as secretary of defense is -- as undersecretary of defense for policy which is an important position, but also because she is a co-founder of the center for new american security, and you cannot walk for long as the pe
, that there are no unanswered questions. the senators saying this morning the acting c.i.a. director morell told them the al-qaeda references were dropped in the c.i.a. talking points at the request of the f.b.i. because the bureau did not want to compromise an ongoing criminal investigation. but late this afternoon, c.i.a. officials called to correct the record, that it was actually them. rice met with senator joe lieberman who asked if she was coached by the add f before her talk hoe appearances. >> she said no, she was not given messaging points at all by the white house prior to her appearance on those sound morning shows. >> so the meeting today did not settle the matter. it certainly is not as far as these republicans are concerned. >> shepard: what's the response from the administration? >> in that written statement, rice who was joined by the acting c.i.a. director on the hill, said, quote, we explained the talking points provided by the intelligence community and the initial assessment upon which they were based were incorrect in the key respect there was no protest or demonstration in benghazi. al
on davidd3 petraeus's head, as soon as he issued against the wishes of the administration, a cia timeline on benghazi, do you? >> this is exactly, and i love your sarcasm, but that is exactly the problem. in the way that we do have the tools is we have a department of injustice -- if it becomes that, we have the power to define it. it is clearly being used and it is time to define the parts of it that are being unjust. we have that power. the other thing that is so good about america, when the american people rise up and say this is crazy, people are crying for help and nobody did anything. for heaven sakes, somebody answer the phone. we need to know, and this attorney general is not going to do it. the american people need to rise up and make it clear. we need an independent investigation. lou: congressman louie gohmert, it's always good to talk to you. corporate leaders asking the president to be pro-business. carl's junior president doesn't think that the president is listening. coming up next. with the spark miles card from capital one, thor gets great rewards for his small business!
questions in the petraeus scandal like why did the fbi keep investigating the cia director if he committed no crime? and could petraeus have resigned for basically nothing? joining us from minneapolis is former cia officer criminal defense attorney jack rice. good to have you here. this new "washington post"/abc poll finds out that even after he resigned people see general david petraeus in a favorable light. could the president bring him back, nominate him as the next cia director? do you think that's way too far off the map? >> it probably is way too far off the map. realistically, now, you have to look at anybody in his position, anybody at the flagship level if you will. these guys are politicians in the first place. that was before he was director of cia. come in as director, generally speaking you're still a politician. it's hard to bring them back. there is a political cost to it. in fact, there's been some other names that are out there that maybe more likely than what we've seen from the president at this point. >> let's talk act those other possible names, the replacements. we ha
.o.d., department of state, cia, should be interviewed by select committees to get the same story from each group >> okay, the fiscal cliff, if we don't do something by the end of the year, taxes go up on everybody. the child tax change, the marriage tax changes. everybody gets hit and hard. the military will get major-league cut, beginning january 2013, it will be the smallest navy since 1915, the smallest air force in the history of the country. so doing nothing is a catastrophe. here's what i think is fair to ask the republicans. we have 15% of gdp in revenue. the historical average is 18% going to the federal government. one way to get more money is cap deductions. if you limit deductions to $50,000 per punish person, to take care of the missed-class person and then some, you could raise $750 billion in new revenue. to do what? to pay down the debt. we need more money to get out of debt. and to lower tax rates for corporate rates and other rates to create more jobs. i am willing to put revenue on the table to pay down debt and create a better economy. but my democratic friends have to reform
back open. following a meeting with acting c.i.a. director michael morrell and u.n. ambassador susan rice who has become the focal point of the event. they emerged with their talking points unified and intact. >> we're significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. >> i'm more troubled today knowing, having met with the acting director of the c.i.a. and ambassador rice. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. >> eliot: for her part, ambassador rice released a statement shortly after the meeting reiterating her defense. i quote "we stressed that neither i nor anyone else in the administration intended to mislead the american people at any stage in this process and the administration updated congress and the american people as our assessments evolved." joining us now is abc white house correspondent jake tapper, the author of the much lauded new book "the outpost." first, i want to ask you about benghazi gate. honestly die understand what the senators continue to
and close friend simply told the truth as she was permitted to tell it, what the cia gave her to say and no more. for that he charges susan rice, in the words of the new york post, being fried. political fight fans on the tabloids relish this extreme combat what should be a good person's judgment? that's my question tonight. is susan rice now a surrogate for the president, someone to take the punishment when others above her pay grade should be answering the questions, or is she accountable for going on national television knowing she can't tell the whole truth because it's classified? let's begin with senator susan collins, republican of maine. i guess it's the toughest question in the world, senator, and that is, do you believe that susan rice, the u.n. ambassador, knowingly covered up a breach of national security? >> well, let me say this, chris, our purpose is to understand the security failure in benghazi. what the administration told the american public about it. and how we can learn lessons to keep our personnel safer in the future. so that's my interest and goal in this situ
also have the f.b.i. and the secretary of defense and the director of the cia potentially playing that political football game? that would be a huge problem if it were more than just politics. mr. 1: they play hard ball in washington on everything . and unfortunately for susan rice her charm offensive back fire wanted to make nice and made things worse and here is the problem for her going forward. if the administration places her name in confirmation. senators graham and ayotte would place holds on her name. senates have 53 democrats . coming up in january they will have 55 and they need 60. and they need five republicans g to get on board and that could be tough sleeding. >> b <> rian: it is it a almost a joke. mccain and graham and ayote and why are yoa acquiescing . they are flabber gasted after the meeting. we got nothing out of this and i have more questions than before and at 4:00 playing to your point with the cia placed a call and they came out and said acting director morell stated that the cia now says that it deleted the al-qaida references and not the f.b.i.. so they
republicans who say he made blatantly inconsistent statement to them on who changed the cia talking points on the attack. they sit was al qaeda and somebody changed that talking point. there was testimony late last week from former cia director david petraeus who we are told told the lawmakers the initial documents coming out of the cia was this ambush that killed the four americans in benghazi included the word terrorism and cited al qaeda. but someone changed the language. then we had congressman pete king say they questioned james clapper and all the intel heads on capitol hill about this and they all said we don't know who changed it. we don't know. the pressure is now on for answers because now you have got clapper coming out and saying it was me. but clapper was one of the ones saying i have no idea how it was. that led to intel community chairman mike rogers saying he wants an explanation from clapper himself. eli lake is a national security reporter. these weren't small players who went before capitol hill. it was clapper, it was the acting director of the cia, the head of the nati
is that the consulate in benghazi was not an embassy of any typical kind. it really looks like a cia listening station. the kind of security arrangements that were in place were inadequate but it wasn't an embassy. when you build an embassy, there's a formal process about the kinds of materials you use and the setback from the street and the kinds of security measures in place. benghazi, you know, didn't rise to that and as a sort of -- so, you know, there's sort of apples and oranges. but the fact is she's introduced a new line of criticism against ambassador rice. >> do you think it's relevant, peter -- do you think it's relevant the question that susan collins is now raising as part of, let's say the president did say, i want susan rice as my secretary of state, they have the process, they go before and the senators consider her, do you think it's legitimate, this issue that she's brought up now? >> well, a, it was 14 years ago. b, al qaeda unfortunately wasn't deemed to be a significant threat and, c, it's not even clear that she, you know, was in any way responsible for the lack of, you know, mov
that that came directly from the cia, everything that she said. the senators responded by accusing both her and the cia of shading it for political reasons. rice, as you can imagine, forcefully denied that. and, george, so did the acting cia director, who was with her in the meeting. the republican senators just didn't buy it. >> jon, the white house insists president obama has not made the decision to nominate ambassador rice for secretary of state. but they also say that this opposition isn't going to make any difference in that decision. >> reporter: they've been consistent in saying that. and rice herself has told people she had no idea whether or not the president will nominate her. the white house tells me she is very much the leading candidate. and hillary clinton, friends of hillary clinton say, that they expect her to leave immediately after the president's first term is over, in early january. so time is really running out on that, george. i would expect a decision on this very soon. certainly well before christmas. >> rice will be meeting with more senators today? >> reporter: th
his coverage including affair that prompted his resignation as cia director. joining me is thomas ricks. tom, welcome. >> thank you. >> based on this book, the generals, one of them is general petraeus. you had one earlier called "the gamble." fair to say i think you're an admirer of petraeus? >> yes, and i remain so. >> and what's it like working with him in terms of his working with the press? >> you need to use the media to get your views out, that it's a responsibility of a general to explain to the american people what you're doing with their money and their children in some war overseas, and so he engaged and he use thad megaphone to explain this is what i'm doing, this is what i'm trying to do. >> that's an interesting verb," use" the media. some would see that as manipulating the media. >> i think he did that too. so did dwight eisenhower, explaining it to people, routinely holding press conferences, talking to reporters. >> how much of that courtship and exchange of e-mails and journali journalism, has that affected everything more than he might have gotten otherwise? >>
in benghazi. now nbc's andrea mitchell is reporting tonight that the acting director of the cia is going to be joining ambassador rice in person for that meeting tomorrow with those critical senators. we'll keep you posted if we learn more about this breaking news tonight. but the long and short of this is, number one, the acting cia director getting involved in resolving the factual matters that have been contested by republican senators, and two, we have the strongest signal we have had yet about who the president will likely nominate to replace hillary clinton. the highest profile position in the cabinet, alongside the attorney general, but it's big news in politics and big news in terms of american diplomacy. cabinet nominations are not always fights. but in this case, a susan rice secretary of state nomination is something that some republicans have said they would love to have a big fight over. signs tonight indicating the president is not going to be shying away from that fight. big news from washington tonight. >>> the context for the start of a second term here in terms of this
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